Agile Unplugged EP04 | Mike Cottmeyer and Matt Van Vleet
Leading Agile
NOVEMBER 17, 2020
So we first worked together, I guess it was probably back in like late 2009, 2010. I wasn’t actually trying to help anybody get better at software development per se, or product management per se. So— – We reconnected, yeah. I had joined Pillar for a little bit. That was kind of part of it.
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